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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Jimmy or Tommy?
Blake was a winner. Thanks Tony. What a great week
for me so far. May the winning continue.
Fernie.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Long Island Results
PJ, I played around and had a treble of Beck, Schricaphan
and Blake, backed Chela, added in Sargsian at $2.25
which helped, Hrbarty at $2.90 that did not, and left
Youzhny and Rochus (was concerned about his drifting
severely, especially on Betfair, as that usually means
retirement.)
All in all quite handy and the profits continue,
as I am sure they do for all.
I say that come season's end we all get together
for a celebratory drink or two. I have a case or 2
of Penfolds finest available, and with the results
being achieved of late I can see no reason not to
remove the cork from a few.
You will have racked up more than enough frequent
flyer points via your wagering to head down south
and visit us.
Mac.
PS. Plenty of soda water available to keep Crimson
from dehydrating.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Long Island Results
Chela 3-0 up in the third, tie break in the second.
When (not if) he gets up that will make 7/8 R1 picks...
and my bank & I thank you very, very much Tony.
David S.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Long Island Results
Well done Tony, with another "Super Special" home
with Blake. Hope a few others managed to grab the
$1.44 on William Hill before they dropped the price!
You would think an American tournament could manage
a decent "live score" update on their website. The
only results I am getting are via livescore.cz and
the updates are painfully infrequent! Anyone found
anything better?
Lets hope Chela can get home to turn a good day
into a fantastic day!
Terry.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: Whats going on?
Yes PJ and everyone, it was very distracting, at
one stage both Beck and Robredo were down 1 set to
love and Robredo down that break in the 3rd made it
hard to watch, but as usual Tony delivers and a nice
little profit for day one.
Thanks again, Tony.
Brett.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2003 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Soccer
Hi Guy.
I would love to see a copy of the format for the
soccer. As you know I am a big one for time constraints
etc, so if the format is easy to follow and has a
history of success, then I am keen to get involved.
I actually had a play myself on Round 1 following
a few of the many websites out there on the matches,
and had quite a profitable weekend on soccer, but
I naturally prefer to have one reliable source to
work with. If you could send me a copy of the format
and any historical data that would be great. I have
not logged on to Smartgambler for a look at soccer,
so there is probably a bit of info in there for me
also.
I am having an amazing run with the tennis. I think
I am a bit like you, in that I do not just follow
the recommended plays but also take other large overlays,
and make up multis from the short priced winners that
Tony selects that are equal to his prices but he does
not play as such.
I was up 17 units for the year prior to joining up
in mid May, and am now up 130 units, season to date.
I have kept my unit base constant as I thought I was
just having a charmed run and the tide would turn,
but I have had 13 profitable weeks out of the 14 I
have joined and with an hours work a day am really
enjoying it.
It is almost time to up my unit size, as I am now
very confident in Tony's data, and I now have a very
solid bank behind me. Look forward to checking out
the soccer stuff.
Cheers, Blair.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 17 August 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: What a fortnight!
Tony and the Team,
I think I speak for everyone on the list when I say
Congratulations Tony on an exceptional fortnight at
these Masters events in Montreal and Cincinatti.
Your analysis was deadly accurate and I felt that
you were in the players heads in some matchups. Everyone
who had the courage to follow the tips to the letter
would be ecstatic and those of us who also try a few
all-ups and play outside the square occasionally would
be rapturous (as I am).
Thanks again Tony, and looking forward to the US
Open with great anticipation. I know it won't be an
easy fortnight, but bring it on for better or worse.
Regards All, Punter Jack.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Good night
Tony,
Your write-ups and your work is greatly appreciated.
Hopefully when we get to the break we have plenty
in the kitty.
Fernie.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: Good night
Brilliant work Tony, and I added Nalbandian due to
the 3-0 h2h to really cap it off.
As for this effort Guy, you and PJ just keep outdoing
each other, but surely with Fish you could have found
a reference to him "being too strong when he approached
the net"
May the winners keep flowing.
Mac.
(Mac is referring to some disgraceful puns about
Mardy Fish which on a scale of 1 to 10 would
rate about minus 1.)
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Good night
I'll second all the congratulations for Tony. Fantastic
selections, Tony, you always seem to bite back twice
as hard after the very rare small loss nights!
Hopefully our bookie friends are scratching their
collective heads.
Brett.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: Good night
Ar....Naud! we have another winner in Clement.
Jacz.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Last night
Yes, that is right. Another great night thanks,
Tony.
You are the man.
Fernie.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: Mirnyi home
Tony, I also took your overlay on Beck @ 3.25 for
a small amount, so a great night!
Thanks, David S.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: Mirnyi home
Well done Tony, a fantastic selection. That's the
biggest winning odds on a recommended bet I can recall.
All is forgiven Mr Mirnyi.
Brett.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Canada Masters Round One
Well done Tony, with a good start to Round 1.
Delgado a nice win at $2.90 and El Aynaoui home in
3 sets at $2.02.
Lets hope it continues for the remaining round 1
matches!
Terry.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Ferreira
Tony,
Helped myself to a unit at $5.00 at Sportingbet UK.
Nice result.
Mac.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 7:23 AM
Subject: RE: ramirez-hidalgo - puerta
Surprise Surprise! Hidalgo wins 6-3 6-3!
I agree Tony. These idiots are so obvious they must
be causing Bookies concern. Betfair must take some
blame; they obviously must know where the big plunge
is coming from but obviously don't care about their
innocent customers. Freddo Frog could work it out!
Time to complain to Betfair/ATP etc. These greedy
fools could endanger our enjoyment and winnings from
Tony's hard work and skills.
Brett.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Volandri
Tony,
Yes, I got your post and as usual you were spot on.
I just wanted to get your after match comments on
what transpired. Obviously there was some skullduggery
afoot.
Anything we can learn (profit from) for the future?
Regards, PJ.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: Volandri
Did my post come through yesterday? I warned against
that match a day ago.
Here is what I said. "Very interesting moves in
the market for Volandri at Betfair (1.29 out to 1.82).
We all know he is tired and money speaks all languages....
Note, he is booked to play German Bundeslinga on the
weekend and chatrooms are alluding to the fact that
he may be ready for a rest before playing there. Leave
that match well alone."
Hope you made up for it on Vinciguerra and Ferrer
at wonderful prices.
Regards, Tony.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: RE: Volandri
Thanks Tony on Ferrer and Vinciguerra. Well done
again. Particularly pleasing for me as after reading
PJ's posts last night I realised for some reason I'd
missed the Burgsmuller collect and rightly gave myself
the Goose award for the evening!
Brett.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:47 PM
Subject: "Burgsmuller King"
Yes-sirreee Tony,
$3.00 with Betfair. And if I know Crimson and Mac
at all they would also join me in saying thanks.
Remember, " The Burgsmullers are better at Punter
Jacks."
Punter J.
Mr J,
For what its worth I have just over 50 completed
tennis bets now for SR 60% and PoT a whisker under
20%.
These stats are almost identical to those offered
by "Be careful" for the beginning of this
year.
(Posting by "Dr Pangloss" on Pro-Punter
forum)
-----Original Message-----
Insiders List Sent: Saturday, 26 July 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Test Message
Hey team,
A nice win with Nadal and Thomann. I have had a good
week. Keep those winners coming, Tony.
Fernie.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: account closure/ limits
My experience here corresponds with Colin. I'm running
at about 8% profit on turnover on tennis. I feel about
4% of this is accounted for by obtaining the best
possible price, while the remaining 4% profit on turnover
comes from "picking winners".
For it to be worthwhile in the long run, you need
both factors working for you. Relying on one isn't
enough. The other "fallacy" here is just trying to
maximise profit on turnover. Obviously to maximise
profits, better to turnover a lot and have a lower
% POT than turnover less and have a higher POT %,
by only going for the better bets.
I reckon there is some optimum POT % here in punting.
My feeling is that the "optimum POT %" is about 6-8%
... only a guess and will vary from individual to
individual. Hence, I'm happy sitting around the 8%
POT mark rather than higher.
K.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: account closure/ limits
Hi Colin - I'm always happy with a p.o.t of 5-8%
on all my sportsbetting.
I think Tony bases his records on Centrebet prices
so you can certainly make a healthy profit with Tony's
recommended bets on most sites. Obviously by shopping
around you make an even bigger profit.
I just find that with larger stakes a lot of bookies
severely limit the stakes, for example if I can put
3 units on a recommended Tony bet at say 1.70 with
centrebet this may give me a profit of 2.1 units whereas
Bet365 will probably only allow me to place 0.2 of
a unit at 2.20!
I certainly don't take "any old price" as we should
all know we can only profit by placing value bets,
therefore by betting with Centrebet and Sportodds
I probably have less bets as I can't always get the
price I want. That doesn't mean my p.o.t is less but
it might mean my gross winnings are less than they
could be.
Cheers, Brett.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: RE: account closure/ limits
I’ve had similar experiences with many of the bookies
you stated below. Here are my comments.
Surry – similar experience… a joke.
Bet&Win – forget, limits too low.
Bet365 – low limits, but seems to vary from match
to match, so still have an account with them as sometimes
worthwhile.
Victor Chandler – wasn’t even able to open an account
them, as soon as I said I was Australian. They refused
to open an account for me, once I made known I came
from Australia.
Blue Square – have no limit problems.
Nordic – don’t use and won’t based on your experience.
Eurobet – my worst experience ever, trying to get
money out of them. They came up with every excuse
imaginable. It took about 2 months to get funds out
of my account. Bunch of sharks … forget.
Others I use are generally very good. The above have
been the worst, which very much corresponds with your
list. No problem with any Aussie bookies.
K.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: account closure/ limits
Hi.
It seems that these imposters that you mentioned
are there to rob blind any poor simple clients that
they are able to get.
In Oz I have no doubt that Tony's ATP Team are constantly
hurting the players here, namely Sportingbet, Sportodds,
Canbet, Centrebet, Bill Hurley etc. We conducted a
straw poll on Sportingbet a little while ago and the
strike rate was phenomenal.
However their reaction here is to shorten players
quickly and put up cautious markets. But they always
seem to get a few wrong, and I'm happy to say at least
one of us makes them pay.
There are a few names I can think of within the
list that would be prime candidates for getting barred,
but I do not recall anyone being barred from an OZ
bookie. Am I right, boys?
Overseas however is another matter. Mac would relate
to you a story regarding Bet 365 which someone may
post to the list which will make you laugh out loud.
Most of them are spineless robber barons, who need
a good solid slapping.
And as an aside I think our attitude in the group
is that we are all against bookies in a big way. They
are our sworn ememies and even though I was known
as Bookie Jack in a previous incarnation, my loyalty
is with the Tony Team in a rock solid way. No doubt
you will get plenty more feedback.
Regards, Punter Jack.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: account closure/ limits
I've had one or two accounts closed on me, as well
as severe limits imposed elsewhere. Would anyone in
a similar boat like to share experiences? It might
help some people to know that, if they carry on winning,
and don't adopt some kind of strategy, they are headed
for the buffers with certain bookies. If anyone has
any ideas on strategy for avoiding closure, let's
hear it.
My record:
CLOSED
Surrey Sports - total profit AUD5000
Victor Chandler - total profit about AUD3000
LIMITED
Bet365 - limited to stakes around AUD150 - after
profits around AUD2000
Betandwin - limited to stakes AUD70 - after profits
AUD1500
Blue Square - limited to stakes AUD100 - after profits
AUD1000
Nordic - limited to stakes AUD150 - after profits
AUD800
I seem to be able to go on and on winning with the
Australian bookies, without problems, but maybe this
is only a matter of time. Anyone else want to share?
I don't see that it can hurt us to do so, and it might
help each other.
Tony, I'm deliberately leaving my name off this in
case you have any bookies as members. If this is a
problem, say so and I'll let you know who I am.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2003 11:25 PM
Subject: Behrend Skittles
Well - couldn't help myself with that heading - sorry,
I know.
Tomas does the job on Mirnyi, and Volandri carries
on the form that had seen him lose 3 games from his
first 24 played, with another victory.
The victory does not surprise, but the $2.00 about
it does.
Keep it up Tony, we are flying so far tonight. May
the good work continue when the rain stops in Amsterdam.
Mac.
- -----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: Ramirez Hidalgo
Got set nicely at $4.70 at Pinnacle Tony - fair start
to my evening.
Now I wait on Volandri, Behrend, Wawrinka and double
on the two "softies", Montanes and Van Lottum.
Mac.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2003 10:05 PM
Subject: Ramirez Hidalgo
Did anybody take the juicy price on offer? Rated
1.86 and they bet close to 4.00 (probably available
but I only looked at limited bookies).
Amazing price considering he won 61,61.
Tony.
Sorry to be break into this thread, but since I've
had the Tennis Pro package from just prior Wimbledon
I thought I might be able to contribute something.
Small sample (26 bets) but same results as reported
by bc since the beginning of the year.
SR 60.8% PoT 27%. The guy running the show (Tony)
obviously has an encyclopedic knowledge of the game,
together with betting insights that could have only
come from hard earned experience.
(Pro-Punter forum posting from "Dr Pangloss")
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2003 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Missing Match Newport
Thanks, Tony.
After I sent my e-mail I went to check some prices
at Centrebet and then it dawned on me that there were
still Rd 2 matches yet to be played (and that you
had already provided the details on these).
On a personal note I would just like to thank you
and OZmium on a great service you provide with the
tennis, it has proved very profitable for me and everyone
else I'm sure.
Keep up the good work. Thanks once again.
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2003 9:48 AM
Tony,
Thanks a million from me also regarding the grass
season. Your analysis was spot on. My outright on
Federer arrived thanks to you (it seems that outright
betting is a tough sport).
Looking forward to getting back in the normal groove.
Regards, Punter Jack.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: Gstaad R1 addition
Tony,
thanks for a great grass court season. I must admit,
I feared the worst going into the 4 week period with
all those warnings (and in capitals each day), but
managed to make a profit over the 4 week period.
The icing on the cake was Federer in the final with
$1.60 available at the Aussie books due to the weight
of Australian money on the Scud. I found the ratings
got better and better over the 4 week period, as the
grass court form become more available. So next year,
my policy may be to slowly build up over the 4 week
period.
Just to let you know, the Newport draw is available
and is attached. It was on the ATP web site when I
looked just now.
K.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2003 8:50 AM
Well after a successful (but not predicted) grass
season, your grass rating (by others) has been significantly
elevated.
Many thanks Tony, a thoroughly enjoyable and profitable
grass season. Your tireless work is acknowledged.
David.
(Tony claims to struggle with the short grass
court season.)
----- -----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2003 8:06 PM
To: Guy West
Subject: Feedback
Hi Guy.
Sorry to be so tardy in my response.
Some feedback for you. I am very busy, but I enjoy
the challenge of the products that you have to offer.
You run a very professional business and I enjoy the
banter of the lists. I can't type, so it's time consuming
for me to respond, but I know I should send some more
positive feedback notes to the lists.
I've not gambled much in the past (except for those
terrible pokies!) and I've taken the advice very seriously.
I enjoy the "science" of it and am still learning
the discipline!
I invested 10K last year, in only three bookies (too
time consuming to look around) which I still use.
This amount fell to 4.7K by Oct 02 as I made some
terrible mistakes (a couple of my own bets recently
remind me that I'll be a rookie for some time to come!)
Then along came Tony, now I'm up to 17K overall.
David.
(Excerpt from longer e-mail)
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