Tennis betting
Section 4

Unlike some businesses, we do not write our own testimonials! This shabby practice deserves to be exposed wherever it can be shown to be happening. Lay-out has been standardised and punctuation and spelling corrected in some cases for readability. Some members of our tennis 'insiders' mailing list may appear more than once because of frequent communication amongst the group.

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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Jimmy or Tommy?

Blake was a winner. Thanks Tony. What a great week for me so far. May the winning continue.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Long Island Results

PJ, I played around and had a treble of Beck, Schricaphan and Blake, backed Chela, added in Sargsian at $2.25 which helped, Hrbarty at $2.90 that did not, and left Youzhny and Rochus (was concerned about his drifting severely, especially on Betfair, as that usually means retirement.)

All in all quite handy and the profits continue, as I am sure they do for all.

I say that come season's end we all get together for a celebratory drink or two. I have a case or 2 of Penfolds finest available, and with the results being achieved of late I can see no reason not to remove the cork from a few.

You will have racked up more than enough frequent flyer points via your wagering to head down south and visit us.


PS. Plenty of soda water available to keep Crimson from dehydrating.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Long Island Results

Chela 3-0 up in the third, tie break in the second. When (not if) he gets up that will make 7/8 R1 picks... and my bank & I thank you very, very much Tony.

David S.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Long Island Results

Well done Tony, with another "Super Special" home with Blake. Hope a few others managed to grab the $1.44 on William Hill before they dropped the price!

You would think an American tournament could manage a decent "live score" update on their website. The only results I am getting are via and the updates are painfully infrequent! Anyone found anything better?

Lets hope Chela can get home to turn a good day into a fantastic day!


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: Whats going on?

Yes PJ and everyone, it was very distracting, at one stage both Beck and Robredo were down 1 set to love and Robredo down that break in the 3rd made it hard to watch, but as usual Tony delivers and a nice little profit for day one.

Thanks again, Tony.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2003 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Soccer

Hi Guy.

I would love to see a copy of the format for the soccer. As you know I am a big one for time constraints etc, so if the format is easy to follow and has a history of success, then I am keen to get involved.

I actually had a play myself on Round 1 following a few of the many websites out there on the matches, and had quite a profitable weekend on soccer, but I naturally prefer to have one reliable source to work with. If you could send me a copy of the format and any historical data that would be great. I have not logged on to Smartgambler for a look at soccer, so there is probably a bit of info in there for me also.

I am having an amazing run with the tennis. I think I am a bit like you, in that I do not just follow the recommended plays but also take other large overlays, and make up multis from the short priced winners that Tony selects that are equal to his prices but he does not play as such.

I was up 17 units for the year prior to joining up in mid May, and am now up 130 units, season to date. I have kept my unit base constant as I thought I was just having a charmed run and the tide would turn, but I have had 13 profitable weeks out of the 14 I have joined and with an hours work a day am really enjoying it.

It is almost time to up my unit size, as I am now very confident in Tony's data, and I now have a very solid bank behind me. Look forward to checking out the soccer stuff.

Cheers, Blair.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 17 August 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: What a fortnight!

Tony and the Team,

I think I speak for everyone on the list when I say Congratulations Tony on an exceptional fortnight at these Masters events in Montreal and Cincinatti.

Your analysis was deadly accurate and I felt that you were in the players heads in some matchups. Everyone who had the courage to follow the tips to the letter would be ecstatic and those of us who also try a few all-ups and play outside the square occasionally would be rapturous (as I am).

Thanks again Tony, and looking forward to the US Open with great anticipation. I know it won't be an easy fortnight, but bring it on for better or worse.

Regards All, Punter Jack.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Good night


Your write-ups and your work is greatly appreciated. Hopefully when we get to the break we have plenty in the kitty.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: Good night

Brilliant work Tony, and I added Nalbandian due to the 3-0 h2h to really cap it off.

As for this effort Guy, you and PJ just keep outdoing each other, but surely with Fish you could have found a reference to him "being too strong when he approached the net"

May the winners keep flowing.


(Mac is referring to some disgraceful puns about Mardy Fish which on a scale of 1 to 10 would rate about minus 1.)

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Good night

I'll second all the congratulations for Tony. Fantastic selections, Tony, you always seem to bite back twice as hard after the very rare small loss nights!

Hopefully our bookie friends are scratching their collective heads.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: Good night

Ar....Naud! we have another winner in Clement.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Last night

Yes, that is right. Another great night thanks, Tony.

You are the man.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: Mirnyi home

Tony, I also took your overlay on Beck @ 3.25 for a small amount, so a great night!

Thanks, David S.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: Mirnyi home

Well done Tony, a fantastic selection. That's the biggest winning odds on a recommended bet I can recall.

All is forgiven Mr Mirnyi.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Canada Masters Round One

Well done Tony, with a good start to Round 1.

Delgado a nice win at $2.90 and El Aynaoui home in 3 sets at $2.02.

Lets hope it continues for the remaining round 1 matches!


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Ferreira


Helped myself to a unit at $5.00 at Sportingbet UK. Nice result.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 7:23 AM
Subject: RE: ramirez-hidalgo - puerta

Surprise Surprise! Hidalgo wins 6-3 6-3!

I agree Tony. These idiots are so obvious they must be causing Bookies concern. Betfair must take some blame; they obviously must know where the big plunge is coming from but obviously don't care about their innocent customers. Freddo Frog could work it out!

Time to complain to Betfair/ATP etc. These greedy fools could endanger our enjoyment and winnings from Tony's hard work and skills.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Volandri


Yes, I got your post and as usual you were spot on. I just wanted to get your after match comments on what transpired. Obviously there was some skullduggery afoot.

Anything we can learn (profit from) for the future?

Regards, PJ.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: Volandri

Did my post come through yesterday? I warned against that match a day ago.

Here is what I said. "Very interesting moves in the market for Volandri at Betfair (1.29 out to 1.82). We all know he is tired and money speaks all languages.... Note, he is booked to play German Bundeslinga on the weekend and chatrooms are alluding to the fact that he may be ready for a rest before playing there. Leave that match well alone."

Hope you made up for it on Vinciguerra and Ferrer at wonderful prices.

Regards, Tony.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: RE: Volandri

Thanks Tony on Ferrer and Vinciguerra. Well done again. Particularly pleasing for me as after reading PJ's posts last night I realised for some reason I'd missed the Burgsmuller collect and rightly gave myself the Goose award for the evening!


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:47 PM
Subject: "Burgsmuller King"

Yes-sirreee Tony,

$3.00 with Betfair. And if I know Crimson and Mac at all they would also join me in saying thanks.

Remember, " The Burgsmullers are better at Punter Jacks."

Punter J.

Mr J,

For what its worth I have just over 50 completed tennis bets now for SR 60% and PoT a whisker under 20%.

These stats are almost identical to those offered by "Be careful" for the beginning of this year.

(Posting by "Dr Pangloss" on Pro-Punter forum)

-----Original Message-----
Insiders List Sent: Saturday, 26 July 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Test Message

Hey team,

A nice win with Nadal and Thomann. I have had a good week. Keep those winners coming, Tony.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: account closure/ limits

My experience here corresponds with Colin. I'm running at about 8% profit on turnover on tennis. I feel about 4% of this is accounted for by obtaining the best possible price, while the remaining 4% profit on turnover comes from "picking winners".

For it to be worthwhile in the long run, you need both factors working for you. Relying on one isn't enough. The other "fallacy" here is just trying to maximise profit on turnover. Obviously to maximise profits, better to turnover a lot and have a lower % POT than turnover less and have a higher POT %, by only going for the better bets.

I reckon there is some optimum POT % here in punting. My feeling is that the "optimum POT %" is about 6-8% ... only a guess and will vary from individual to individual. Hence, I'm happy sitting around the 8% POT mark rather than higher.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: account closure/ limits

Hi Colin - I'm always happy with a p.o.t of 5-8% on all my sportsbetting.

I think Tony bases his records on Centrebet prices so you can certainly make a healthy profit with Tony's recommended bets on most sites. Obviously by shopping around you make an even bigger profit.

I just find that with larger stakes a lot of bookies severely limit the stakes, for example if I can put 3 units on a recommended Tony bet at say 1.70 with centrebet this may give me a profit of 2.1 units whereas Bet365 will probably only allow me to place 0.2 of a unit at 2.20!

I certainly don't take "any old price" as we should all know we can only profit by placing value bets, therefore by betting with Centrebet and Sportodds I probably have less bets as I can't always get the price I want. That doesn't mean my p.o.t is less but it might mean my gross winnings are less than they could be.

Cheers, Brett.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: RE: account closure/ limits

I’ve had similar experiences with many of the bookies you stated below. Here are my comments.

Surry – similar experience… a joke.

Bet&Win – forget, limits too low.

Bet365 – low limits, but seems to vary from match to match, so still have an account with them as sometimes worthwhile.

Victor Chandler – wasn’t even able to open an account them, as soon as I said I was Australian. They refused to open an account for me, once I made known I came from Australia.

Blue Square – have no limit problems.

Nordic – don’t use and won’t based on your experience.

Eurobet – my worst experience ever, trying to get money out of them. They came up with every excuse imaginable. It took about 2 months to get funds out of my account. Bunch of sharks … forget.

Others I use are generally very good. The above have been the worst, which very much corresponds with your list. No problem with any Aussie bookies.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: account closure/ limits


It seems that these imposters that you mentioned are there to rob blind any poor simple clients that they are able to get.

In Oz I have no doubt that Tony's ATP Team are constantly hurting the players here, namely Sportingbet, Sportodds, Canbet, Centrebet, Bill Hurley etc. We conducted a straw poll on Sportingbet a little while ago and the strike rate was phenomenal.

However their reaction here is to shorten players quickly and put up cautious markets. But they always seem to get a few wrong, and I'm happy to say at least one of us makes them pay.

There are a few names I can think of within the list that would be prime candidates for getting barred, but I do not recall anyone being barred from an OZ bookie. Am I right, boys?

Overseas however is another matter. Mac would relate to you a story regarding Bet 365 which someone may post to the list which will make you laugh out loud. Most of them are spineless robber barons, who need a good solid slapping.

And as an aside I think our attitude in the group is that we are all against bookies in a big way. They are our sworn ememies and even though I was known as Bookie Jack in a previous incarnation, my loyalty is with the Tony Team in a rock solid way. No doubt you will get plenty more feedback.

Regards, Punter Jack.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: account closure/ limits

I've had one or two accounts closed on me, as well as severe limits imposed elsewhere. Would anyone in a similar boat like to share experiences? It might help some people to know that, if they carry on winning, and don't adopt some kind of strategy, they are headed for the buffers with certain bookies. If anyone has any ideas on strategy for avoiding closure, let's hear it.

My record:


Surrey Sports - total profit AUD5000

Victor Chandler - total profit about AUD3000


Bet365 - limited to stakes around AUD150 - after profits around AUD2000

Betandwin - limited to stakes AUD70 - after profits AUD1500

Blue Square - limited to stakes AUD100 - after profits AUD1000

Nordic - limited to stakes AUD150 - after profits AUD800

I seem to be able to go on and on winning with the Australian bookies, without problems, but maybe this is only a matter of time. Anyone else want to share? I don't see that it can hurt us to do so, and it might help each other.

Tony, I'm deliberately leaving my name off this in case you have any bookies as members. If this is a problem, say so and I'll let you know who I am.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2003 11:25 PM
Subject: Behrend Skittles

Well - couldn't help myself with that heading - sorry, I know.

Tomas does the job on Mirnyi, and Volandri carries on the form that had seen him lose 3 games from his first 24 played, with another victory.

The victory does not surprise, but the $2.00 about it does.

Keep it up Tony, we are flying so far tonight. May the good work continue when the rain stops in Amsterdam.


- -----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: Ramirez Hidalgo

Got set nicely at $4.70 at Pinnacle Tony - fair start to my evening.

Now I wait on Volandri, Behrend, Wawrinka and double on the two "softies", Montanes and Van Lottum.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2003 10:05 PM
Subject: Ramirez Hidalgo

Did anybody take the juicy price on offer? Rated 1.86 and they bet close to 4.00 (probably available but I only looked at limited bookies).

Amazing price considering he won 61,61.


Sorry to be break into this thread, but since I've had the Tennis Pro package from just prior Wimbledon I thought I might be able to contribute something.

Small sample (26 bets) but same results as reported by bc since the beginning of the year.

SR 60.8% PoT 27%. The guy running the show (Tony) obviously has an encyclopedic knowledge of the game, together with betting insights that could have only come from hard earned experience.

(Pro-Punter forum posting from "Dr Pangloss")

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2003 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Missing Match Newport

Thanks, Tony.

After I sent my e-mail I went to check some prices at Centrebet and then it dawned on me that there were still Rd 2 matches yet to be played (and that you had already provided the details on these).

On a personal note I would just like to thank you and OZmium on a great service you provide with the tennis, it has proved very profitable for me and everyone else I'm sure.

Keep up the good work. Thanks once again.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2003 9:48 AM


Thanks a million from me also regarding the grass season. Your analysis was spot on. My outright on Federer arrived thanks to you (it seems that outright betting is a tough sport).

Looking forward to getting back in the normal groove.

Regards, Punter Jack.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: Gstaad R1 addition


thanks for a great grass court season. I must admit, I feared the worst going into the 4 week period with all those warnings (and in capitals each day), but managed to make a profit over the 4 week period.

The icing on the cake was Federer in the final with $1.60 available at the Aussie books due to the weight of Australian money on the Scud. I found the ratings got better and better over the 4 week period, as the grass court form become more available. So next year, my policy may be to slowly build up over the 4 week period.

Just to let you know, the Newport draw is available and is attached. It was on the ATP web site when I looked just now.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2003 8:50 AM

Well after a successful (but not predicted) grass season, your grass rating (by others) has been significantly elevated.

Many thanks Tony, a thoroughly enjoyable and profitable grass season. Your tireless work is acknowledged.


(Tony claims to struggle with the short grass court season.)

----- -----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2003 8:06 PM
To: Guy West
Subject: Feedback

Hi Guy.

Sorry to be so tardy in my response.

Some feedback for you. I am very busy, but I enjoy the challenge of the products that you have to offer. You run a very professional business and I enjoy the banter of the lists. I can't type, so it's time consuming for me to respond, but I know I should send some more positive feedback notes to the lists.

I've not gambled much in the past (except for those terrible pokies!) and I've taken the advice very seriously. I enjoy the "science" of it and am still learning the discipline!

I invested 10K last year, in only three bookies (too time consuming to look around) which I still use. This amount fell to 4.7K by Oct 02 as I made some terrible mistakes (a couple of my own bets recently remind me that I'll be a rookie for some time to come!)

Then along came Tony, now I'm up to 17K overall.


(Excerpt from longer e-mail)

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